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INTERVIEW WITH RUFIO Things are starting to happen for young Californian quartet Rufio. Since forming five years ago in Rancho Cucamonga, east of Los Angeles, the punk-popsters have been steadily crafting savvy tunes and impressing fans with their stage confidence. Bassist/vocalist Jon Berry says the group's most recent disc The Comfort of Home, which follows 2003's Nitro release MCMLXXXV, is an attempt to reach a broader audience. Interview by Steve Tauschke | steve@staff.truepunk.com | with Jon Berry.
So how's the touring going .. I heard you played Warped this year?
We only did ten shows but it was rad. I loved it. We leave pretty soon to go on the road again. We're doing a bunch of touring in the States. We're really stoked now to be playing these songs live. We're happy with that.
Do you feel you guys have moved up a level with the new album in terms of audience response?
Yeah, I mean to us we're happy with it and think it's the best thing we've done so far. But it's hard to say what people think of it because we've just been home since it's been out so we need to have people buy it and get used to it and take in it. But from what we've heard online people seem to like it.
Having two chief songwriters in the band, do you and (singer/guitarist) Scott Sellers worked mostly independently or together?
It depends. We usually work independently and then sometimes we work together.
Was there a different musical approach in the studio given the addition of keyboards and other instruments?
Yeah, we knew we wanted songs that were more interesting and more well-crafted. So this time instead of just doing everything as a band, we sat down and wrote the songs and after we got a good melody and a good structure then we come together as a band and bash out all the riffs and instrumentation. So it's definitely a new approach.
How did keys work their way into the sound?
It's cool because it's a new element to the songs. We just wanted to have different instruments on this record so we've got keys and violins on a couple of parts. We're fans of big production and a lot of orchestration and stuff like that.
This album seems inspired by more than just pop-punk?
That's very true. We listen to so much stuff from Zeppelin, I'm a huge fan of the Beatles, I like the way they write their songs and their progressions. I think our musical libraries have expanded greatly since we wrote our first album and I think that kind of shows in our music.
Is it true you actually scratched the album's original sessions?
That's true. We had 12 songs two years ago and then toured all summer and came back to the songs and though 'we can do better than this'. They were too similar to our last album and we weren't too happy with a lot of the melodies. So we salvaged some stuff and started over and did something better.
Did your producer Mike Green help in that regard?
Yeah, he was cool because he helped with our approach to songwriting and stuff and it was really good working with him. We'd run melodies by him and it was definitely a good experience. He's very hands-on, he likes to play guitar and so he was always jamming with us. He had a keyboard/organ/piano too and that sounded cool.
You previously worked with Nick Raskulinecz has won a Grammy and produced everyone from Queens Of The Stoneage to Jimmy Eat World to Foo Fighters. What's Mike Green's production background?
Well, we were very apprehensive working with him because he's very new and he'd worked with the Matches and our friend's band called Over It. They told us they'd worked with this rad guy so that's how we heard of him. But his style is very different to that of Nick Raskulinecz.
Do you think Rufio drew strength from the tragic death of your brother Joe last year?
It was definitely hard for sure and the guys were really cool about everything. They told me to take some time off. They were really understanding. I think it's made me stronger.
Interview with Scott Sellers of Rufio Phone Interview
October 30, 2002
Leah Weinberg: Okay, I haven't gotten the bio yet, so I don't know any background info on you guys. Could you give me a quick synopsis?
Scott Sellers: A quick synopsis?
L.W.: Yeah.
S.S.: Real quick, what does synopsis mean?
L.W.: Like a summary of the band's background.
S.S.: Like how we started and all that?
L.W.: Yeah.
S.S.: Alright. Well, about two years ago I'd say, me and one of my friends from school, Jon, just started messing around making songs up, you know? We wanted to hear what it would sound like with drums, so we got another guy from our school, Mike, and then Clark for drums and guitar, and we just started jamming together. It's been really fun. We started trying to play shows and see what people thought of us, and we've been getting good responses and stuff, and just started playing like coffee shops and battle of the bands and stuff like that. Just trying to get the name out as much as we can, you know, flyers, stickers and everything.
L.W.: I assume the name came from the movie "Hook," right?
S.S.: Kind of. This guy down the street was gonna call his band that, and I was like, Oh, I'm totally stealing that name. But I guess it did come from "Hook."
L.W.: How old are all you guys?
S.S.: Um, I'm 20 and Jon's 21. Clark and Mike are both 19.
L.W.: And how many CD's have you put out?
S.S.: We put out one CD, Perhaps, I Suppose.... Before that we had a demo, but we didn't put it out or anything. We just burnt it and sold it ourselves.
L.W.: Who are some of the band's musical influences?
S.S.: We've all been listening to pretty much everything. Our minds are pretty much open to everything, you know? Like all of us listen to metal like Pantera and Killswitch Engage. I personally listen to pop, like Coldplay and Ben Folds. And Mike's into like lots of older school punk like the Misfits and stuff from back in the day. I think it's better to get influences from other kinds of music to try and put it into something else.
L.W.: Whose idea was it to do the When Punk Goes Pop CD?
S.S.: I'm not sure really. We just got an e-mail, I think. And we were just like, 'That sounds rad. Let's do Madonna!'
L.W. Did any one of you pick that song?
S.S.: I think Jon came up with the CD and was like, 'Oh my god, let's do this one.' And we were like, 'Yeah, this is gonna be fun.'
L.W.: When did you guys sign with Nitro?
S.S.: We signed with Nitro last October.
L.W.: Are you working on a new record for them?
S.S.: Yeah. Actually, we just got done recording and EP we're going to release on Nitro. That should be out early next year. And then we're gonna do that Ataris tour and then we're gonna get back and hopefully record a full-length.
L.W.: When does the Ataris tour start?
S.S.: I believe on November 4th.
L.W.: Are you guys stoked about that line-up?
S.S.: Oh, my god. I am so excited for that tour. Autopilot Off, Ataris and Sugarcult, like all three bands I've been listening to since they came out. It's like oh my god, I'm going out with like people I have their CD already and stuff. We're blown away.
L.W.: Are you guys nervous at all about it?
S.S.: Oh, I'm so nervous.
L.W.: Are you?
S.S.: Oh yeah, totally. Like meeting the Ataris and the Sugarcult guys, you're just like, Oh my god. Like two of my favorite bands I'm going on tour with and I'll hopefully be able to hang out with them and stuff.
L.W.: Have you gotten to meet any of them yet?
S.S.: Yeah, we met a couple of the guys from the Ataris, but not Sugarcult yet. They've been really cool so far.
L.W.: Yeah, the guys from Sugarcult are awesome, so you'll have a lot of fun.
S.S.: Aw, I hope so. I'm so excited.
L.W.: Would you say you are the primary songwriter in terms of lyrics?
S.S.: Lyrics? Me and Jon write pretty much all the lyrics.
L.W.: What inspires you guys to write songs?
S.S.: Just everyday things that happen, you know? Like things that we go through and things that our family and friends go through. Like everything actually has meaning.
L.W.: Do you think punk has been getting more popular these days?
S.S.: I think it's getting way more popular. I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing though. I can see how people wouldn't like that because that's what's close to them, you know, that's like their special thing. Like me playing the music, I think it's awesome that it's getting big. Kind of like opening up the music scene, no more Staind and stuff.
L.W.: What do you think the future has in store for Rufio?
S.S.: Honestly, I have no clue. Hopefully...like...wow...I don't know. I'd like to take it as far as it goes, you know? As long as we're still having fun and loving what we're doing. This is like art. We just love what we're doing and however far that can take us is how far we would like to go.
L.W.: What's one thing you want the public to know about the band?
S.S.: I don't know.
L.W.: 3 words that describe Rufio
S.S.: 'We like guys.' No, no, no. Wait, let me think of three more. 'Come say hi.' [Laughs] These last two are hard ones, come on.
L.W.: Do you want another one?
S.S.: Ok, go. Give me like one more.
L.W.: What do your parents think about all this?
S.S.: All our parents are so into it. They totally support us 100%. It's awesome. I love it. My parents are like, 'Can I have this song burnt on a CD?' It feels like first grade again. It's awesome. I like it.
L.W.: Well, unless you want to give me three other words, I guess those are all the questions I've got for you.
S.S.: Three other words, about our band?
L.W.: Yes.
S.S.: We're not punk. [Laughs]
L.W.: Do you really believe that?
S.S.: No. I have no clue. That's a hard one. You can use any of the three. 'We like guys' preferably.
L.W.: Okay. That will definitely be the first line of the article.
S.S.: [Laughs]
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